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I wonder what's the ceiling for these plans' prices.
At some point, it becomes a non-negligible fraction of the salary for the employee, especially in non-US employment markets. |
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A lot depends on how good open source models do. I know I can buy a 20k rig or whatever to get model X. If someone wants to charge me 3k a month to write code I just buy the hardware. |
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Particularly in this situation, it cannot be unlimited. A command to one agent could scale into a whole datacenter very quickly. It can feel unlimited for many use cases, probably. But I doubt it can, let's say, 3D model things in blender on 3 different computers for 24/7. And hey, why not 30 things? 300? If you're just watching them, it's easy to get ridiculous. |
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I understand your point; but I disagree - Unlimited is possible. It gets into a "define unlimited" discussion. You could give "unlimited" usage, but still "limit" both concurrency and throttle speed. Even if you run 24/7, they still have knobs they can twist. |
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Fair enough, but you're kind of changing the parameters. The limiting thing now is total tokens, so unlimited would mean infinite tokens. And it's not hard to spin up to infinite tokens, one agent and one command can orchestrate it. |
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Is there really no limit on number of concurrent agents on either OpenAIs or Anthropic's plans? |
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Cloud agents in Codex are quite poor solution compared to Claude Code, you are forced to use your own computer, which is not the desired setup for anyone with a standard laptop not suitable for doing lots of work in parallel. So I would still prefer to spend some dollars in Anthropic or even Cursor solutions, which work much better as cloud dev envs. |
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to be honest wasn't much surprised cause of the current situation like frontier models being so expensive and the models like opus consuming way much more tokens you just can't justify any of that. this token math is just so damned right now :( |
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the bottom line is that a.i is getting more and more expensive and they have excuses for that.
just last week trae.ai reduced its plan credits from 400$ to 100$ |
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Inference for the same level of intelligence is getting cheaper. Frontier intelligence keeps finding ways to get more expensive, yes. But gpt-6-sol, for instance, dropped price for the same level of intelligence. That will keep happening, and someday we'll have basically-free sol. And hopefully by then, very cheap astra. But some new wild thing will be very expensive. I'm sure I'll figure out how to use the new one, but I would be extremely happy with near-free Astra. |
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Claude subs are great value again ever since Astra release moved lots of people to OpenAI subs. Even moreso since Opus 5.5 release. |
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